Does Magnus Carlsen cheat when he starts with a new account? (2500?)
Does anyone generally cheat when he loses the first game in the tournament, without giving his best from the start?
When do you call something cheating, manipulation or falsification?
I noticed that in lower tournaments where I play (U2000 an lower) often the best places always lost the first game. My thoughts: If you do that, then you are paired with weaker players and easily win some games quickly until you are back on your own playing strength.
I looked closely at some of these first games, it was very often noticed that the moves are pulled extremely fast and very careless sometimes even clear mistakes are made like playing the first time.
Some times it was not even trying to prevent obviously Mate in two, in other games it was simply maneuvered quick into a absolute bad position and then resign. In some games, this approach of losing oneself is so clear that you have to ask yourself if that is not clearly cheating by manipulating the pairing system.
A very difficult question, because actually you can not blame anyone for having to play at his level in the tournament ore play good at all.
But if, for example, a 1800s player plays his first game like a 1000 and then clearly wins the tournament, then that makes you a little bit pensive.
I'm new here and clearly you have to be very careful when naming someone a cheater, but theoretically this manipulative practice is you are cheating because you knowingly get an advantage at startup.
This is just a pattern that I noticed already after 2 months.
I also thought about whether Carlsen as World Champion and best participant in the Titletd Arena 9 under a new account with 2500? starts and is thus paired in the initial phase against many weaker players, is not also something dishonest?
Of course this is very entertaining, if nobody knows as who he is playing!
(He too often loses the first game, perhaps as proof that he too is human and will not be banished as an engine. :)
In contrast, for example, strong players like GM Rebecca Harris, GM penguingim1 or GM Zhigalko_Sergei have to compete against the best players from the beginning, while a new account such as the world champion under the last new name Dr.Nykterstein starts in 66th place and at least the first games against actually much weaker player starts. In the end, as you know, not the direct matches, but simply the number of games won counts.
So nobody misunderstands me: I have huge respect for Carlsen, all the other titlet players and in general in front of everyone whether he plays better or weaker than me or don’t play at all.
Also, I am sure that we all love Carlsen, also for having played these incredibly funny and weak openings at the last Titled Arena and entertaining all of us and showed again how incredible skilled he is.
I also do not say that these practices are cheating, if they had happened deliberately and with the idea of gaining an advantage.
I'm just wondering if that does not significantly falsify the system and if there is sometimes calculated intention behind it.
I just want to stimulate the thought process, that even without clear cheating, so a tournament-system can be influenced. It is also clear that there will never be a perfect system, even though Lichess comes incredibly close to the perfect level. The only unchangeable variable remains humanity.
Please forgive me for using some of our idols as an example, but if I were just writing about U2000 players, it certainly would not get much attention. Thus, I cheat too, or at least manipulate. :)
Please don’t give me shit because this!
Thank you to all respectful honest players and all honest people all over the planet. Do not believe in the dark side of the force. :)
Best regards, Dimitri
Does anyone generally cheat when he loses the first game in the tournament, without giving his best from the start?
When do you call something cheating, manipulation or falsification?
I noticed that in lower tournaments where I play (U2000 an lower) often the best places always lost the first game. My thoughts: If you do that, then you are paired with weaker players and easily win some games quickly until you are back on your own playing strength.
I looked closely at some of these first games, it was very often noticed that the moves are pulled extremely fast and very careless sometimes even clear mistakes are made like playing the first time.
Some times it was not even trying to prevent obviously Mate in two, in other games it was simply maneuvered quick into a absolute bad position and then resign. In some games, this approach of losing oneself is so clear that you have to ask yourself if that is not clearly cheating by manipulating the pairing system.
A very difficult question, because actually you can not blame anyone for having to play at his level in the tournament ore play good at all.
But if, for example, a 1800s player plays his first game like a 1000 and then clearly wins the tournament, then that makes you a little bit pensive.
I'm new here and clearly you have to be very careful when naming someone a cheater, but theoretically this manipulative practice is you are cheating because you knowingly get an advantage at startup.
This is just a pattern that I noticed already after 2 months.
I also thought about whether Carlsen as World Champion and best participant in the Titletd Arena 9 under a new account with 2500? starts and is thus paired in the initial phase against many weaker players, is not also something dishonest?
Of course this is very entertaining, if nobody knows as who he is playing!
(He too often loses the first game, perhaps as proof that he too is human and will not be banished as an engine. :)
In contrast, for example, strong players like GM Rebecca Harris, GM penguingim1 or GM Zhigalko_Sergei have to compete against the best players from the beginning, while a new account such as the world champion under the last new name Dr.Nykterstein starts in 66th place and at least the first games against actually much weaker player starts. In the end, as you know, not the direct matches, but simply the number of games won counts.
So nobody misunderstands me: I have huge respect for Carlsen, all the other titlet players and in general in front of everyone whether he plays better or weaker than me or don’t play at all.
Also, I am sure that we all love Carlsen, also for having played these incredibly funny and weak openings at the last Titled Arena and entertaining all of us and showed again how incredible skilled he is.
I also do not say that these practices are cheating, if they had happened deliberately and with the idea of gaining an advantage.
I'm just wondering if that does not significantly falsify the system and if there is sometimes calculated intention behind it.
I just want to stimulate the thought process, that even without clear cheating, so a tournament-system can be influenced. It is also clear that there will never be a perfect system, even though Lichess comes incredibly close to the perfect level. The only unchangeable variable remains humanity.
Please forgive me for using some of our idols as an example, but if I were just writing about U2000 players, it certainly would not get much attention. Thus, I cheat too, or at least manipulate. :)
Please don’t give me shit because this!
Thank you to all respectful honest players and all honest people all over the planet. Do not believe in the dark side of the force. :)
Best regards, Dimitri