Hello,
I made a few games unrated and many players don't even respond when i say "hi" or "good luck"
When you play an unrated game, you can take one second to say hi
This is just simple courtesy !
I am being constantly questioned over the integrity of my forum posts. By national masters, users and patrons.
@heallan said in #2:
> I am being constantly questioned over the integrity of my forum posts. By national masters, users and patrons.
Please keep in the subject...
@th2j said in #3:
> Please keep in the subject...
A greeting goes a long way to break the ice over a chess contest; but, due to the nature of internet-based matches, the absence of this approach may go unnoticed by your opponent(s) prior to deployment.
Years ago, I used to play chess on Yahoo, and the people there were just awful. Over the last year, Lichess has started to feel quite similar to me. It could be that I've become a grumpy old git.
For example, the other day, my opponent lost connection, so I waited and gave them an extra minute on their clock. They didn't acknowledge this in the chat, and instead, later on in the match they tried to run me down on the clock in a lost game. nice!
Don't forget that many are kids here, who are well advised not to engage in conversation with strangers on the internet. Others may be socially awkward and choose online chess precisely because they want to avoid interaction with strangers but still want to play chess. Some may not even notice your greeting. Please do not call people impolite just because they did not chat with you.
@sausage4mash said in #5:
> Years ago, I used to play chess on Yahoo, and the people there were just awful. Over the last year, Lichess has started to feel quite similar to me. It could be that I've become a grumpy old git.
> For example, the other day, my opponent lost connection, so I waited and gave them an extra minute on their clock. They didn't acknowledge this in the chat, and instead, later on in the match they tried to run me down on the clock in a lost game. nice!
This sounds similar to my experience of playing to an opponent's strengths, only to be pursued endlessly in checking manoeuvres.
@ohcomeon_1 said in #6:
> Don't forget that many are kids here, who are well advised not to engage in conversation with strangers on the internet. Others may be socially awkward and choose online chess precisely because they want to avoid interaction with strangers but still want to play chess. Some may not even notice your greeting. Please do not call people impolite just because they did not chat with you.
The third one for me.
All I wish for from my opponents, and what I appreciate, is non-malicious behaviour. I.e. don't ragesit, don't drag out games for no reason (but I don't expect you to resign if you wanna genuinely keep fighting), don't be an asshole. That's all. When I play N games per day/week, I don't wanna exchange the same empty phrases N times with people whose names I won't remember 5 seconds after the game is over. We're here for chess, so let's play chess. Simple.
Though I will say "well played" if a particularly nice (=blunder-free) game ends with me getting outplayed. But odds are good they won't even see it if they already moved on to the analysis screen or to the next game. And that's fine.
I think exchanging courtiesies makes more sense over the board. There people have to take trouble to meet you, sacrifice time and the costs of travel. And you'll meet them again, probably. It makes sense to have more ceremony. Online making games happen is ultratrivial; you just press one button. There's no corresponding sense that I should give appreciation to the other person for it.
when u play on phone with small screen, you dont even see any part of the chatbox. same goes for Zen mode / kid mode or when you disabled chat altogether in the options.
i have a little bit of a problem with the word courtesy here. its your courtesy to greet, but only if you do so without expectations. what you mean is etiquette. often times i prefer a smile over a half-arsed greeting coming from someone with dead eyes.
even in real life there could be situations where greeting back doesnt happen without any bad intent, e.g. a deaf person or one with headphones. sometimes when i go by bike and i am really exhausted i cant speak or even physically force myself to smile, and if i would try to it would only show a weird grimace, so i just wave a hand - unless its uphill then i dont even do that.
its no secret that people do all sorts of weird behavior on the internet they would never do in real life. "neglect" is very harmless. its also kind of liberating and efficient. imagine we would have to hold a tea ceremony via videocall before we could answer each others posts and questions! :P
