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@ddfjdfjh said in #5:
> @Alientcp did You read book by Robert Gentry "Little mistery of creation". There he explains how he found radium in the rock of granite, which decomposes into polonium, he found three rings of decay of radium to polonium.........

Rock formation has 0% to do with evolution.

From wiki.
"His self-published book Creation's Tiny Mystery was reviewed by geologist Gregg Wilkerson, who said that it has several logical flaws and concluded that "the book is a source of much misinformation about current geologic thinking and confuses fact with interpretation." Wilkerson also noted that the book contains considerable autobiographical material and he observed that "[i]n general I don't think educators will find it's worth their time to tread through this creationist's whining."[23] This criticism of Gentry's "frequent whining about discrimination" has also been made by fellow creationists, who concluded that "his scientific snubs resulted more from his own abrasive style than from his peculiar ideas", according to critic Ronald L. Numbers, a historian of science"

And information from the 70's is already 50 years obsolete. I have an encyclopedia from the 80's that showed that pluto was not the farthest planet, it was neptune, and it was true due to the extreme elliptical orbit of pluto. but now pluto is the farthest planet (if we count it as one), which is also true.

If you want to debunk the evolution, watch the philogeny challenge video, watch the playlist, and if you really find the flaw, publish a paper and i guarantee you, you get the nobel prize. But if you dont watch it, you will keep the wrong idea that geology is part of evolution.

Just watch the damm videos and learn.
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@Alientcp I'll watch it tomorrow it's late in my country right now...but didn't Earth evolved from part that separated from Sun by evolution theory ?
which is older: chicken or egg ? that's simple questions
@ddfjdfjh said in #13:
> I'll watch it tomorrow it's late in my country right now...but didn't Earth evolved from part that separated from Sun by evolution theory ?

The Earth is not an organism.
@clousems said in #14:
> The Earth is not an organism.
But when You put animal's shit in her it gives better vegetables for eating...by the way what is Earth iff it is not an organism ?
@ddfjdfjh said in #13:
> I'll watch it tomorrow it's late in my country right now...but didn't Earth evolved from part that separated from Sun by evolution theory ?
> which is older: chicken or egg ? that's simple questions

Biological evolution is the change in inherited traits over successive generations in populations of organisms.

Is the sun biological? Nope. Evolution only deals with organic entities, more specifically with those who reproduce sexually.

The egg is older. It appeared in the paleozoic when the first tetrapods ventured on the land somewhere between 400-300 million years ago.

Birds are a daughter group of avian dinosaurs which are a distant daughter group from tetrapods. Non avian dinosaurs appeared between 140-100 million years ago. The chicken is way more modern.

And once you understand the relation, which is explained in the video, you will understand why birds, mammals and reptiles and everything else in the animal kingdom beside insecs actually layed eggs, reptiles and birds still do, some mammals still do, and the placenta is actually just a variation of the same egg. They are related and the egg is actually one of the characteristics of their relation.

The videos are useful, really, its no joke. You will learn.
@clousems said in #6:
> Must they be mutually exclusive?
Yes kind of because the idea behind evolution is that it's all random (and the fittest survives), so the end result is fitter but random too. On the other hand if there was an end purpose then randomness would likely not achieve this result. Human intelligent life on Earth is the result of evolution, but nothing proves it's the only possible result.

Of course one could argue that God is achieving His purpose while making look like it's through randomness, but he's actually playing with a double-headed coin. But then that wouldn't really be evolution, that would only be the apparence of evolution. Besides, why would God want to deceive us into making look like we are the result of evolution?

Another objection could be that God created the Universe and the laws of physics then just let it evolve on its own. If I was theist, I'd go with that idea, but for sure it doesn't really match the idea of God of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
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@polylogarithmique said in #19:
> @Alientcp it's not nice to delete your comment after pinging me.
Didnt realize it was you making a sarcasm. Thought it was the other guy making an affirmation. Both are impossible to distinguish when they come from a theist.

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